GREG GUTFELD (CO-HOST): We had a war over slavery. We knew slavery was inhumane and immoral, but somehow we couldn't solve slavery peacefully. It was an evil, but one side refused to acknowledge it was evil because it was too big of an admission for them to make. Doesn't that feel that way now? This defiant refusal to reverse the decline argues against the survival of a country. What does that leave you with? It leaves you with you need to make war to bring peace because you have a side that cannot change. Because then that means the admission that their beliefs have been corrupt all the time. So, in a way, you have to force them to surrender.
JESSE WATTERS (CO-HOST): Or we can make love, not war.
GUTFELD: I tried that once.
HAROLD FORD, JR.: Or we have an election.
GUTFELD: I had to go to a doctor.
MARTHA MACCALLUM (CO-HOST): Right, elections.
GUTFELD: No, elections don't work. We know that. We know they don't work.
FORD: Elections do work.
GUTFELD: Look what we have! We had a moderate president and we have crime exploding everywhere. We had a Democrat president promise that he was going to be moderate, promise that he was gonna unite the country and now we have a terrible education system. We have no border. We have crime everywhere. Every facet of society is in peril and in chaos because our elections don’t matter.
FORD: No, elections do matter. We don’t need to go to war for it. We go to the election booth and vote the people out who don't do the --
GUTFELD: I wish I was as naive as you, Harold.